hi all.. what newsreader recomend use in 2025? that allow setup mulipile news servers and read and posting?

thank you all

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Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Internetking to All on Sat Apr 19 2025 05:50 pm

hi all.. what newsreader recomend use in 2025? that allow setup mulipile news servers and read and posting?

thank you all

i have always used xnews.
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Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: MRO to Internetking on Sat Apr 19 2025 09:03 pm

Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Internetking to All on Sat Apr 19 2025 05:50 pm

hi all.. what newsreader recomend use in 2025? that allow setup mulipile news servers and read and posting?

thank you all

i have always used xnews.

I use slrn. You have to use a command line parameter to ues a different new

s server, but it does work. For graphical newsreaders, Thunderbird is actually a good option that allows multiple accounts and posting.

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Hey Boraxman!

On Sun, Apr 20 2025 03:51:40 -0500, you wrote:

i have always used xnews.

I just looked at the website for this, and it definitely looks like work on it was discontinued 20 years ago (the GUI is terrible to look at these days, but maybe wasn't so bad in it's heyday when everything else looked like that, too). ;)

I use slrn. You have to use a command line parameter to ues a
different news server, but it does work. For graphical newsreaders, Thunderbird is actually a good option that allows multiple accounts
and posting.

slrn is great for console (my personal favorite, also). So is tin and neomutt. They do the job and do it well. They all use iconv for character set translations without issue, and you can use whatever external editor you want with them.

As for graphical, Thunderbird (what I'm currently using to write this) and Claws Mail are probably your best options for both Windows and Linux, and then Pan is a good one for Linux (there has been Windows ports but it seems support has stopped for that, and the latest one isn't usable).

Regards,
Nick

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Internetking wrote to All <=-

hi all.. what newsreader recomend use in 2025? that allow setup
mulipile news servers and read and posting?

I recommend Pan.



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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Accession to Boraxman on Sun Apr 20 2025 07:17 am

Hey Boraxman!

On Sun, Apr 20 2025 03:51:40 -0500, you wrote:

i have always used xnews.

I just looked at the website for this, and it definitely looks like work on was discontinued 20 years ago (the GUI is terrible to look at these days, bu maybe wasn't so bad in it's heyday when everything else looked like that, to ;)

I use slrn. You have to use a command line parameter to ues a
different news server, but it does work. For graphical newsreaders, Thunderbird is actually a good option that allows multiple accounts
and posting.

slrn is great for console (my personal favorite, also). So is tin and neomut They do the job and do it well. They all use iconv for character set translations without issue, and you can use whatever external editor you wan with them.

As for graphical, Thunderbird (what I'm currently using to write this) and Claws Mail are probably your best options for both Windows and Linux, and th Pan is a good one for Linux (there has been Windows ports but it seems suppo has stopped for that, and the latest one isn't usable).

Regards,
Nick

I didn't know neomutt
could read NNTP. I would have used tha tinstead, as I use it for mail as well.

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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Accession to Boraxman on Sun Apr 20 2025 07:17 am

Hey Boraxman!

On Sun, Apr 20 2025 03:51:40 -0500, you wrote:

i have always used xnews.

I just looked at the website for this, and it definitely looks like work

on
it was discontinued 20 years ago (the GUI is terrible to look at these days, but maybe wasn't so bad in it's heyday when everything else looked like that, too). ;)

well i wouldn't call it terrible. it's functional. https://i.imgur.com/sqxA5bx.png

and quit acting like you're not old!

There's something about thunderbird in it's gui that's always been a turn off for me. claws is just too wonky for me. i would say the gui is crummy and outdated, also.


i would recommend xnews to anybody that wants a compact program that works well and is easy to setup.
also.

You can set it up and view msgs or grab binaries in seconds.
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Quoting Accession to Boraxman <=-

i have always used xnews.

I use Forte Agent 8 which is looks pretty dated, and I also use Newsbin Pro 64 which looks more modern in the UI. Both work great.

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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Cougar428 to ACCESSION on Mon Apr 21 2025 11:23 am

Quoting Accession to Boraxman <=-

i have always used xnews.

I use Forte Agent 8 which is looks pretty dated, and I also use Newsbin Pro 64 which looks more modern in the UI. Both work great.

i used newsbin pro back in the day. it was great for downloading binaries.

do people even write in newsgroups anymore? i think it might be even more dead than bbsing and fidonet
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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Cougar428 to ACCESSION on Mon Apr 21 2025 11:23:03

I use Forte Agent 8 which is looks pretty dated...

I used Agent exclusively, from day one 'til newsgroups were no longer a thing. <sigh>...I miss the old Usenet.

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MRO wrote to Cougar428 <=-

do people even write in newsgroups anymore? i think it might be even
more dead than bbsing and fidonet

There are a few newsgroups in the alt.os.linux family that still have
some useful content. Certainly not like it used to be though.



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Hey Boraxman!

On Sun, Apr 20 2025 18:57:22 -0500, you wrote:

I didn't know neomutt could read NNTP. I would have used tha
tinstead, as I use it for mail as well.

It does. And it's not too bad at it, either!

I have it setup on another VM, configured to switch between two email addresses as well as NNTP via F1-f3 keys. It works pretty good, considering the developer told me the NNTP code needs an overhaul (that he's not interested in doing). ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Mortar wrote to Cougar428 <=-

I used Agent exclusively, from day one 'til newsgroups were no longer a thing.

They're still a thing, to a lesser extent. Just like BBSes.

<sigh>...I miss the old Usenet.

So do I.



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MRO wrote to Cougar428 <=-

do people even write in newsgroups anymore? i think it might be even
more dead than bbsing and fidonet

There are a few newsgroups in the alt.os.linux family that still have
some useful content. Certainly not like it used to be though.

Usenet is part of my daily correspondence routine. Definately still alive, though certainly not as active as it used to be.

Some of the Linux groups are active (a lot of political spam though), as is the action games group. Politics is active, but mostly about US Politics and Trump,
so pretty horrid and lowbrow. The eternal.september groups have a few messages,
as does the rocksolid areas. There are some BBS groups, occasional messages there. Philosophy sees some activity.

The busier groups probably have close to the same levels of activity as Dovenet and fsxNet. Usenet is still worth a look, whether its worth staying is another matter. I do need to find a good discussion forum with intelligent people, thats
kind of hard to get now. Social Media sucks as a format, and places where people
use their phones to access are also not that great.



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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Accession to Boraxman on Mon Apr 21 2025 05:00 pm

Hey Boraxman!

On Sun, Apr 20 2025 18:57:22 -0500, you wrote:

I didn't know neomutt could read NNTP. I would have used tha
tinstead, as I use it for mail as well.

It does. And it's not too bad at it, either!

I have it setup on another VM, configured to switch between two email addres as well as NNTP via F1-f3 keys. It works pretty good, considering the develo told me the NNTP code needs an overhaul (that he's not interested in doing).

Regards,
Nick

Now I'm interested. How
do you get it to change configurations on a keypress? I know how with mutt to do it by a command line parameter, but while its running?

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Mortar wrote to Cougar428 <=-

I used Agent exclusively, from day one 'til newsgroups were no longer a thing. <sigh>...I miss the old Usenet.

Oh, those days - getting on the computer and running out of space,
finding out Agent needed to clear out old binaries because it took up
most of my 30 gb hard drive...



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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Mortar on Tue Apr 22 2025 08:00 am

I used Agent exclusively, from day one 'til newsgroups were no longer a
thing. <sigh>...I miss the old Usenet.

Oh, those days - getting on the computer and running out of space, finding out Agent needed to clear out old binaries because it took up most of my 30 gb hard drive...

I used Forte Agent in the mid-late 90s for newsgroups.. Forte Agent's article list is what mainly inspired me to make my message lister for Synchronet years ago (which is now the 'message list' feature in DDMsgReader).

Nightfox

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Quoting Mro to Cougar428 <=-

I use Forte Agent 8 which is looks pretty dated, and I also use Newsbin Pro 64 which looks more modern in the UI. Both work great.

i used newsbin pro back in the day. it was great for downloading
binaries.

I mostly use it for the binaries. Photos and ebooks, I guess I'm a
lurker there.

do people even write in newsgroups anymore? i think it might be even
more dead than bbsing and fidonet -!-

I do see messages but mostly for requests in the groups. I am probably
part of the problem since I don't really post there.

It is pretty dead, but there are tons of flood posts with ebooks and
such.

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Quoting Mortar to Cougar428 <=-

I used Agent exclusively, from day one 'til newsgroups were no longer
a thing. <sigh>...I miss the old Usenet.

Yeah, it's mostly junk there now. I do use the ebook binary floods
though. There's not much conversation other than requests. I still use
Agent, but Newsbin Pro seems to work faster at downloading the headers.

I admit, I don't post much.

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Hey Boraxman!

On Tue, Apr 22 2025 08:36:42 -0500, you wrote:

I have it setup on another VM, configured to switch between two
email addres as well as NNTP via F1-f3 keys. It works pretty good,
considering the develo told me the NNTP code needs an overhaul
(that he's not interested in doing).

Now I'm interested. How do you get it to change configurations on a keypress? I know how with mutt to do it by a command line
parameter, but while its running?

Yeah, you'd have to add mappings for your F-keys to switch accounts, source your accounts in .neomuttrc and use 'folder-hook' commands. It's a bit extensive to be trying to describe here in a message, though. ;)

https://neomutt.org/test-doc/bestpractice/multiprofile

.. and a better explanation of what you need even though this guy missed something that he figured out later:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/578945/neomutt-multi-account

Unfortunately, I left my setup alone for too long, and now something is broken. I can confirm it worked at some point, though! I just tend to prefer slrn and mutt, separately. They do their own specific things very well. And, don't expect the neomutt developer(s) to update the NNTP code, if you find anything quirky:

"A lot of NeoMutt has been re-engineered, but the NNTP part got left behind. It needs a good overhaul, but unless someone volunteers, it's pretty low priority." - Richard Russan

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Cougar428 to MRO on Tue Apr 22 2025 03:33 pm

Quoting Mro to Cougar428 <=-

I use Forte Agent 8 which is looks pretty dated, and I also use Newsbin Pro 64 which looks more modern in the UI. Both work great.

i used newsbin pro back in the day. it was great for downloading binaries.

I mostly use it for the binaries. Photos and ebooks, I guess I'm a
lurker there.

do people even write in newsgroups anymore? i think it might be even more dead than bbsing and fidonet -!-

I do see messages but mostly for requests in the groups. I am probably
part of the problem since I don't really post there.

It is pretty dead, but there are tons of flood posts with ebooks and
such.

i just use torrent sites. when i was using newsgroups i'd have to donate to an indexer site and do other stuff to get what i wanted. with torrents it's just so easier.
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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Cougar428 to MORTAR on Tue Apr 22 2025 03:33 pm

use the ebook binary floods

What group(s) for that?

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Quoting Mro to Cougar428 <=-

i just use torrent sites. when i was using newsgroups i'd have to
donate to an indexer site and do other stuff to get what i wanted.
with torrents it's just so easier. -!-

Thanks for the tip. I'll have to see what I can find in that arena!

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Quoting Phigan to Cougar428 <=-

use the ebook binary floods

What group(s) for that?

Hey there Phigan, the ones I 'lurk' in are...

a.b.e-book.flood *
alt.binaries.e-book-flood
alt.binaries.e-books *
alt.binaries.e-books.flood
alt.binaries.ebooks
alt.binaries.ebooks.flood
alt.binaries.ebook

There are probably others, but these are the ones I follow.

Have a great day!

Cougar

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phigan wrote to Cougar428 <=-

Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Cougar428 to MORTAR on Tue Apr 22 2025 03:33 pm

use the ebook binary floods

What group(s) for that?

alt.binaries.e-book
alt.binaries.e-books

Are two that I know of.



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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Cougar428 to PHIGAN on Wed Apr 23 2025 09:12 am

Hey there Phigan, the ones I 'lurk'
are...

Thank you for the list!

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Cougar428 wrote to MORTAR <=-

Yeah, it's mostly junk there now. I do use the ebook binary floods
though. There's not much conversation other than requests. I still use Agent, but Newsbin Pro seems to work faster at downloading the headers.

I admit, I don't post much.

I have a couple of newsgroups on my BBS. Alt.slack, just because. It's
not about the collaboration tool. alt.smokers.pipes, although most of
the posters have passed on, it seems. alt.bbs.ads, to post my BBS ads. alt.folklore.computers, lots of discussions of the big iron days. alt.sysadmin.recovery for therapy.



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Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Cougar428 <=-

alt.smokers.pipes, although most of the posters have passed on,

I think it's the same in alt.smokers.cigarettes...

Just kidding! (I think)

Not sure if that's an actual group or not. ;)

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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Cougar428 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Apr 26 2025 08:17:56

I think it's the same in alt.smokers.cigarettes...
Not sure if that's an actual group or not. ;)

Wouldn't surprise mr. There were sooo many alt groups back then. It was the largest category on Usenet.

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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Mortar to Cougar428 on Sat Apr 26 2025 03:47 pm

I think it's the same in alt.smokers.cigarettes... Not sure if that's an
actual group or not. ;)

Wouldn't surprise mr. There were sooo many alt groups back then. It was the largest category on Usenet.

I noticed that too. Wasn't "alt" supposed to mean alternate? With so many of them, I feel like they were basically mainstream, not "alternate". :P

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to Mortar <=-

I noticed that too. Wasn't "alt" supposed to mean alternate? With so many of them, I feel like they were basically mainstream, not
"alternate". :P

They were meant as an alternative to the moderated newsgroups in the
various non-alt hierarchies. comp.dcom.telecom begat
alt.comp.dcom.telecom when the moderators started taking their
responsibilities a bit too personally.



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Re: Re: newsreaders in 2025
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Sun Apr 27 2025 17:29:40

I noticed that too. Wasn't "alt" supposed to mean alternate?
With so many of them, I feel like they were basically mainstream,
not "alternate". :P

It's up to Usenet's maintainers to decide which newsgroup a subject falls into. The more esoteric the subject, the more chance it has to fall in te alt catagory.

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